Thursday, June 30, 2011

Malthusians in Power

Thomas Robert Malthus
Modern day Malthusians think the world should be depopulated.  Malthus himself didn't advocate covert sterilization or killing off the population though, that I can tell.  That is a more recent idea.

There are many people in government, media, and think tanks now who openly advocate just that.  If not rounding people up and shooting them, then "soft kill" or sterilization.

I found this quote bouncing around online: “One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.” — Psychologist Barbara Marx Hubbard – member of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank.

I looked up Dr. Hubbard and she seems to be a new-agey psych guru type, pushing for something she calls Conscious Evolution.  She tried to run for vice-president of the US in 1984 on the Democratic ticket but lost the nomination to Geraldine Ferraro.  I googled the above quote and it doesn't appear on any website she controls. I'm not sure where that quote originally came from.

Dr. Hubbard says on her own web page, "We do not have many years to change our behavior if we wish to avoid a catastrophic collapse of our life support systems, our social systems, and indeed, life itself on Earth."

So the possibility that she said the first quote is there, since the second quote is kind of in the same vein.

"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."- Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '96


On 23 January 2009, President Obama signed a presidential memorandum authorizing USAID and State Department to fund NGOs that may use "non USAID funds to engage in a wide range of activities, including providing advise, counseling, or information regarding abortion or lobbying a foreign government to legalize or make abortion available."  lifted from here.

Though I am for choice (although it's a dire choice to have to make), and for women to be able to get contraception, I think it's a bit odd that we're spending US money to facilitate abortion in other countries.  It would be better to just hand out condoms, as we'd be preventing disease.

After a roundtable discussion with Indian Minister for Environment Jairam Ramesh, [Hilary] Clinton openly pondered this supposed link:
“One of the participants”, Clinton stated, “pointed out that it’s rather odd to talk about climate change and what we must do to stop and prevent the ill effects without talking about population and family planning.”

LifeNews.Com reported on the comments by Clinton advisor Nina Fedoroff, who stated before BBC One Planet:
“We need to continue to decrease the growth rate of the global population; the planet can’t support many more people. There are probably already too many people on the planet.”
 The last two quotes are from here

John P. Holdren, Obama's Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology is a Malthusian. John Holdren's mentor is Paul Ehrlich, who called among other things for coercive population reduction and mass sterilization. Holdren and Ehrlich worked together to try to stop the development of fusion energy, on the grounds that it would give humanity cheap energy.

Here are quotations from the 1977 book, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, by Paul R. Ehrlich, Anne H. Ehrlich and John P. Holdren.
"Involuntary fertility control — a program of sterilizing women after their second or third child, despite the relatively greater difficulty of the operation than vasectomy, might be easier to implement than trying to sterilize men. The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births." (p. 786)
"Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock." (pp. 787-8)
"Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society." (p. 837)
"If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility — just as they can be required to exercise responsibility in their resource-consumption patterns — providing they are not denied equal protection." (p. 838)
The stuff about Holdren is here.

2 comments:

IG88 said...

Hi,

I'm currently in the midst of doing some research on the subject of "population reduction", and my focus right now is on the supposed quote by Ted Turner, in which he believes a 95% reduction in population would be "ideal." I've seen the quote posted pretty much everywhere, all saying it was quoted from the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, but nobody I've spoken to have personally read the article, or seen a copy themselves, and they say they simply copied and pasted it from a large list of quotes.

I was wondering if perhaps you might have a copy of the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, or have read it yourself? Turner clearly believes in population reduction, but I just want to be sure this is an accurate quote. There are far too many bogus ones floating around and repeated, so to confirm if this one is true or false would be a good thing.

I hope you can help!

Penny Pincher Personal Finance said...

Hmm, no, same here, but I'll look for an original source too. Sometimes those sources "disappear" after people start making a stink about something. For example, GovBizOpps has had bid requests disappear within an hour after activists have reported on them.

Google Archive is sadly no more. That would have been an ideal place to start looking. You might try the Wayback Machine instead, to see if there is a cached version of this document.